Repeatable melee attacks and group interrupts
Improved Eviscerate3/3
Improved Sinister Strike2/2
Lightning Reflexes1/5
Deflection2/3
Precision3/3
Endurance2/2
Improved Sprint2/2
Improved Kick2/2
Dual Wield Specialization3/5
Blade Flurry1/1
Compare two routes
WoW Forever Combat vs Assassination Rogue Leveling
Explore a Level 30 WoW Forever Combat vs Assassination Rogue Leveling route with selected ranks, point-by-point progression and an editable calculator link.
Combo-point finishers and poisoned targets
Malice5/5
Ruthlessness3/3
Improved Slice and Dice2/3
Relentless Strikes1/1
Lethality4/5
Cold Blood1/1
Improved Poisons4/5
Mutilate1/1
Talent differences
| Talent | Left route | Right route |
|---|---|---|
| Malice | 0 | 5 |
| Ruthlessness | 0 | 3 |
| Improved Slice and Dice | 0 | 2 |
| Relentless Strikes | 0 | 1 |
| Lethality | 0 | 4 |
| Cold Blood | 0 | 1 |
| Improved Poisons | 0 | 4 |
| Mutilate | 0 | 1 |
| Improved Eviscerate | 3 | 0 |
| Improved Sinister Strike | 2 | 0 |
| Lightning Reflexes | 1 | 0 |
| Deflection | 2 | 0 |
| Precision | 3 | 0 |
| Endurance | 2 | 0 |
| Improved Sprint | 2 | 0 |
| Improved Kick | 2 | 0 |
| Dual Wield Specialization | 3 | 0 |
| Blade Flurry | 1 | 0 |
Editable editorial routes · Source limits remain visible · No simulated performance scores
Role and playstyle comparison
| Planning consideration | Combat | Assassination |
|---|---|---|
| Testing role | Repeatable melee attacks and group interrupts | Combo-point finishers and poisoned targets |
| Main trade-off | The allocation reserves points for movement and interrupts, leaving off-hand damage at three of five ranks. Blade Flurry can strike another nearby opponent, so an agreed control target matters. Deflection is partial and Riposte is unselected. | Mutilate attacks with both weapons and its text makes extra damage conditional on a poisoned target. This example does not buy Combat hit support or the Subtlety stealth package; a short unpoisoned opener is an incomplete test of it. |
| What to measure | Keep weapon quality and the tank target fixed. Record misses, successful Kicks, movement losses, cooldown recovery and whether Blade Flurry hits an unintended controlled enemy. | Keep both weapons and poison choices fixed. Record complete combo-point cycles, target lifetime, poison applications and recovery over several comparable pulls. |
BLIZZARD OCTOBER 1 NOTESOfficial
October 1 Beta changes for Rogue
Official Beta announcement · Blizzard’s October 1 development notes
Expose Armor missing no longer removes all combo points.
Subtlety Setup now adds combo points to the current target only when that same target caused the dodge or spell resist.
These are gameplay fixes, not an announced new talent tree.
The live Beta level cap is 30. The talent structure was reconciled through 1.60.1.70291; 21-point Level 30 routes are editorial allocations. Rank descriptions retain their separate community transcription evidence, and point-order rules remain derived assumptions.
Repeated attacks or a full finisher cycle
Combat reaches Blade Flurry after attack-cost, hit, off-hand and Kick support. Assassination reaches Mutilate after combo-point, finisher and poison investment. Hold weapons and target lifetime constant; the presence of an endpoint is not a damage ranking.
Compare at the same level and budget
Use the early stage for repeated attacks and cooldown recovery. Add the later off-hand and Kick ranks before testing Blade Flurry across the same number of enemies. Its selected place in this sequence is an editorial choice, not its only possible purchase level.
At eleven points, record complete finishing-move cycles and any Energy return. Later compare Cold Blood windows and Mutilate with both weapons and poison state held constant. The sequence describes editorial spending milestones, rather than separately verified unlock levels.
Combat: selected talents and trade-offs
Improved Sinister Strike 2/2 and Improved Eviscerate 3/3 form the first five points. Precision 3/3 and Deflection 2/3 complete ten; the first Endurance rank is the eleven-point stage. Endurance 2/2, Improved Sprint 2/2 and Lightning Reflexes 1/5 reach fifteen. Dual Wield Specialization 3/5 and Improved Kick 2/2 lead to Blade Flurry at twenty-one.
The allocation reserves points for movement and interrupts, leaving off-hand damage at three of five ranks. Blade Flurry can strike another nearby opponent, so an agreed control target matters. Deflection is partial and Riposte is unselected.
Keep weapon quality and the tank target fixed. Record misses, successful Kicks, movement losses, cooldown recovery and whether Blade Flurry hits an unintended controlled enemy.
Executable point order
Use the progression to inspect each point from Level 10 to 30. The calculator opens the exact allocation and level. These routes are examples for comparing choices, not a measured damage ranking.
Reviewed Rogue snapshot: 53 visible nodes from Wago client build 1.60.1.70291, reconciled against Talents Forever. All 139 rank descriptions are adapted from Talents Forever (CC BY 4.0, https://talentsforever.com), with community verification. The export resolves tooltip values at Level 60; it does not rescale them to the selected level or simulate damage. Level 30 examples spend 21 points; the existing Level 20 page uses eleven-point stages of this reviewed tree. One point per level from 10, five points per tier, full-rank prerequisites and the editorial point order remain derived planning assumptions. Original 69913 saves remain historical records and are not partially migrated into a changed allocation.
Data sources, verification & planning limits
Reviewed Rogue snapshot: 53 visible nodes from Wago client build 1.60.1.70291, reconciled against Talents Forever. All 139 rank descriptions are adapted from Talents Forever (CC BY 4.0, https://talentsforever.com), with community verification. The export resolves tooltip values at Level 60; it does not rescale them to the selected level or simulate damage. Level 30 examples spend 21 points; the existing Level 20 page uses eleven-point stages of this reviewed tree. One point per level from 10, five points per tier, full-rank prerequisites and the editorial point order remain derived planning assumptions. Original 69913 saves remain historical records and are not partially migrated into a changed allocation.